Okay gentlemen and not so gentlemen :
I was asked by pm (as the Patrice O'Neal master
) a question that triggered a long answer that I hope everyone will like (or if not, please correct me wrong, I'm still here to learn.
I am not sure if you are familiar with mode one(basically telling woman whats on your mind)The thread was torn up here. Anyways, would you say the advice here is not the same as patrice oneal's of being honest(or trying to be honest,nobody is perfect?.I mean hear people tell you not to show too much interest in the beginning and show a poker face and not reveal your hand.I mean wouldn't patrice say this is beating around the bush and being dishonest?If he sees a woman with a nice ass he he probably tell her that,if you want a date with a woman should you tell her that you want a date?but here people would say you are showing too much interest/filling in space and you should let her make the move..Can you explain to me how these two philosophies align?
Okay, I read the thread again.
Warning, this will come long.
Two points :
He is anti-dating, anti-complimenting/flattering/buying gifts,dinners etc. He thinks that dating is outdated and you have to enjoy sex with somebody before getting to know her and decide whether you can spend time with her apart from having sex. Apparently, he is more into casual sex/multiple partners and his target group involves a specific, limited kind of women who are horny enough to fuck a guy before getting to know him (not what I would define as quality)..
Mode One, WANTS TO FUCK STRANGERS. FAST. WITH NO BS.
If that's what you want, fine. David X did it also, Patrice did it also (years before his death though, more later)
Star_Above started with HIS experience with it, how it didn't work for him.
Eight monthes later, he asked me by pm Sleazy's Minimal game (pdf here : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64632416/Aaron ... l_game.pdf
if you want) and commented :
Finished it, great fuck'n book, it's actually exactly how I do things.
The only difference from what you've heard here and what Sleazy talks about is what to do when a girl shows interest.
I find here everyone is about playing hard to get and being patient whereas Sleazy is very direct to a girl that wants him and will make things happen quickly.
I totally agree with him, I've lost so many fucking girls who wanted me by playing hard to get and telling them I wasn't feeling it because I thought that would make them want me more...or if she was like "Let's get together this weekend" I'd say nah can't I'm busy, I may be free next weekend though.
I literately lost them all man, tons! So if you know a girl likes you then definitely listen to him escalate, it's when you sense she's playing games after that that you just bail on her. And make it happen quickly, fuck patience, she's looking for a guy, and if it ain't you she'll find one very quickly and forget your ass, so don't feel you need to wait.
It doesn't come off as aggressive as mode one though, does it ?
And also : http://www.naturalfreedom.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2500
Is it any wonder guys have anxiety talking to girls after they think they have to go up to them and tell them they make shadow puppets with their cock after watching simple pick-up videos, or "Hey, I'm free Thursday, let's fuck" after reading mode one.
How about just being fucking normal and having regular conversations with girls, if there's chemistry you can give her your number and take it from there, no outcome dependence, no neediness, no being fucking weird....just being social
Wygant gives a great example
Okay, NOW Mode One VS Patrice O'Neal.
The principal differences between MO and Patrice is that Patrice didn't sell anything !!!!
And, more importantly, Patrice eventually EVOLVED in his way of thinking (just as Kidd did).
For example, Patrice :
- Used to go to Brazil to hook up with hookers (that's where he got his enlightenment of how things are supposed to be in a male/female relation).
- (not said directly, but you can tell) He surely came to america and started being direct and getting results, even though it is a pain in the ass most of the times coz girls are holier than thou.
-> From black phillip : - Patrice is a bear hunter, so he likes aggression
- A guy called to say being direct and honest worked
, and got a girl by saying "I want to fuck you" at a cafe after just one or two hours of talking
- Patrice got his girl by HER STEALING LESSONS FROM HIM (he had eight girls at the time), and him putting HER IN THE FRIEND ZONE !!! THEN SHE ESCALATED (she strip in front of him watching his game) TO FUCK HIM.
- When Patrice got his girl, he swang with other couple for ego control.
- He became monogamous, but wanted a harem (NOT DIFFERENT GIRLS EVERY NIGHT mind you, just more than one girlfriend).
- Eventually, Patrice lost all interest in pursuing ("It's too easy to cheat", he "learnt how great masturbation is", "girls are just hindrance for my career"), and was more concentrated on REVERSING the whole game, than just his head getting pussy.
-> Hence being RADICALLY honest, and would just expose girls to their stupidity, without desire to fuck particularly, without agenda.
So, all that to say, Patrice came to enjoy ONE KEEPER, for a LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP !!!! Whilst Mode One is stuck on fucking plenty of pussy, acting on sexual desire (which is just another desire, just the strongest one in 'everyone').
So, what do you want ?
1. Pursuing girls for the mighty pussy (even though by being direct like Mode One you lose less time than by other methods, but you still GO OUT TO SEEK PUSSY TO FUCK),
2. or, like Patrice, just start concentrating ON THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER FOR YOU (his career took a jump in 2010) , and eventually, some pussy WILL COME TO YOU (and you then act accordingly).
1. Blue pill ?
2. Red pill ?
PS : Star, I hope you don't mind me putting our private conversation here