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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:37 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:38 pm 
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http://self-awakening.com/members/forum ... -thread121

This just gets more amazing check this section out for Etienne basically saying how challenging it is to run a business as a woman and keeping her feminine essence.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:02 am 
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Resonance wrote:
http://self-awakening.com/members/forum ... -thread121

This just gets more amazing check this section out for Etienne basically saying how challenging it is to run a business as a woman and keeping her feminine essence.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Etienne still thinks that women have it harder than men and still sees women as poor creatures who can't make choices. Sad...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:11 am 
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They sure to have a NICE BIG BANNER tho...*hint hint* ;)

Self Awakening, eh? Sounds like he's trying to jump on our bandwagon a little bit. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:28 am 
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I've noticed a trend for virtually every pua-related product/service which has ever been pushed, and this one is a prime example:

The "this is a very very long 10 page contunuous string of claims, testimonials, and other shit" format of advertizing. Something about it bothered me, but now I think I might have a reasonable explanation for why that format exists;

"okay okay already! I've seen enough! I think I'll just skip a bunch and scroll down to the bottom so I CAN PAY and get this over with!"

...I'm no marketer, but i think there's something there... Overwhelm 'em, then give 'em an easy (cash)out.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:26 pm 
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Wasn't Sodini mentioned in The Game by Neil Strauss?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:50 am 
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I'm sorry I can't resist :)

http://www.self-awakening.com/mentorship/mastery.htm

Rion:
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introducing my Mastery Mentorship Coaching!.....More than techniques, you will actually be influenced by my level of consciousness....This is where much of the value of the program is (in experientiality) because I will be sharing enlightened states with you to leap your consciousness.....
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Mastery Mentorship starts @ $27,500 USD.
Now one may ask: was Rion a monk that has reached high levels of consciousness?

Was he given any transmission by someone like the Dalai Lama?

What makes him an expert on 'enlightened states'?

Oh I forgot: being a sex tourist and playing with your penis while watching pretty asian smiley girls makes you very spiritual :lol:

when he says this:
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because I will be sharing enlightened states with you to leap your consciousness.....
does that mean you watch him play with his pipi in front of asian smiley girls vidoes? :? :?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:21 pm 
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Mastery Mentorship starts @ $27,500 USD.
This is unbelievable he is robbing people charging that much money. Reminds me of when he charged a million dollars to be touring the world with him getting foreign girls.

http://www.rionwilliams.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=91

Looks like he took it down. He did say it was for a limited time.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:19 pm 
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Resonance wrote:
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Mastery Mentorship starts @ $27,500 USD.
This is unbelievable he is robbing people charging that much money. Reminds me of when he charged a million dollars to be touring the world with him getting foreign girls.

http://www.rionwilliams.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=91

Looks like he took it down. He did say it was for a limited time.
limited time = lesser chance of people realizing that he is a fraud


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I saw this too, I almost posted it as well. I guarantee there is a NO refund policy on this once you learn pretty quickly that it is garbage. He wants to spend 5+ years in Asia or South America.

He has really transitioned from strictly pickup to more of consciousness work so he can now appeal to both men & women. But come on, for $27,500 you can buy a nice new car or spend it on travel. Who in their right mind would buy this membership?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:14 pm 
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I saw this too, I almost posted it as well. I guarantee there is a NO refund policy on this once you learn pretty quickly that it is garbage. He wants to spend 5+ years in Asia or South America.

He has really transitioned from strictly pickup to more of consciousness work so he can now appeal to both men & women. But come on, for $27,500 you can buy a nice new car or spend it on travel. Who in their right mind would buy this membership?

Someone desperate enough or wants it that badly

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:39 pm 
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All my actions in life where ultimately focused on getting a woman to end my life in marriage with children.
So I had to do anything to achieve this, because it promised happiness.
I can easily see how a worldview like mine could force a man to spend this amount of money, because he thinks it will make him happy ever after.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:01 pm 
LOL at paying 27K and only getting 60 minutes of coaching a month.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Actually Brent Smith is charging a lot of money for one on one coaching and he coaches mostly millionaires. I think Rion is trying Brent's marketing- target rich dudes and promise them the moon.

Only Brent never said he was 'enlightened'.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:39 pm 
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I could tell you how to get enlightened for free.

There's a lot of bashing in this section, where is the love?

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Aztecsfinest wrote:
I could tell you how to get enlightened for free.

There's a lot of bashing in this section, where is the love?
Love for what? Quackery? :roll:

Wait!...are you a Hooey sympathizer? :geek:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:12 pm 
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Love for non-hooey products and "gurus", maybe there isn't a lot of them, bash crap all you like though!

Instead of moaning I'll post a thread on Nathaniel Branden eventually, what I learned from him was awesome.

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The layout on their site actually isn't too bad.

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Not that this is anything new but anyone notice the body language in his pics with the chicks?. 8-)

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