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Author:  Rider [ Thu May 30, 2013 12:01 am ]
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Hi´ll
I have been a guest of this forum for nearly half a year now and decided to become a member. I am 36 years old and I live in southern Europe where a lot of pepole come for holidays. I read some PUA stuff over last few years and what I have read here have shown me how it was sabotaging my life. Through here I discovered Patrice O´Neal, both phillip shows and that completely new to me perspective and attitude that predominates this site.
I live with one woman for 15 years now and I have 2 kids and I was not very happy (hence my dabbing in PUA) but since I got here things started changing rapidly. I was always waiting for sex with my "wife" until she wanted it but now things are different. She sexes me up almost every day as if she was afraid that I am gonna get it somwhere else if she doesn´t and that she might loose me.. It should be to no surprise that I find the stuff I read here very empowering. It helped me to recognize my value as a man and to know myself a little better and therefore make my girlfriend understand it. :mrgreen:
I am sure there is still a long way ahead for me. I would like to contribute too but I think I still got more to learn than to teach. I registered cause I want to further speed up my growth and to let you all know that I finally found the place that resonates with me.
cheers
Rider

Author:  fufe [ Thu May 30, 2013 3:16 pm ]
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And we are happy you found this place :!:

Welcome, etc
Patrice is the best :lol:

So you are not married, just living together and having kids ? That's cool, also how she's afraid of losing you suddenly.. Grats on the change of situation

Author:  rekieter [ Thu May 30, 2013 5:30 pm ]
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Hi mate,
Rider wrote:
I live with one woman for 15 years now and I have 2 kids and I was not very happy (hence my dabbing in PUA) but since I got here things started changing rapidly. I was always waiting for sex with my "wife" until she wanted it but now things are different. She sexes me up almost every day as if she was afraid that I am gonna get it somwhere else if she doesn´t and that she might loose me.. It should be to no surprise that I find the stuff I read here very empowering.
Rider
Could you please elaborate more on that? what exactly changed in your behaviour?

Author:  peregrinus [ Thu May 30, 2013 5:34 pm ]
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Bravo Rider

Author:  Rider [ Fri May 31, 2013 12:50 am ]
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You make me feel welcome. Thanks.
Quote:
Could you please elaborate more on that? what exactly changed in your behaviour?

Answering this question is a long post but I will try to keep it as short as I can. I believe it was few things working together. I read "Manipulated Man" and it made me angry for some time but it also made me realize what I bring into the table. Once I realized that I have done my part correctly I knew I don´t want to live with someone who doesn´t want to do their share. I don´t say she was a bad mother but rather that she was not such a good wife. I was ready to take the L on that. That translated in a behaviour.
I also took more control. I open those pickle jars. There are things that I just don´t expect her to do and do it myself.. like check why the car is not working to give an example. I just let my protective instinct do its job here. :mrgreen:
What I also did was to split up our common wallet. Now I make my money and she makes hers. And guess what? She has 2 jobs now... and likes them both. I still earn more so I feed them all, but clothe only my children and myself and don´t sponsor any activities of hers. I will lend her money if she really needs but I will expect it back.
Last quick thing that comes to my mind: in bed I do more of what I wanna do and not worry as much weather it is something she likes or not. Its better this way. Its stops me from being overcautious. I don´t treat her specially nice after also, just so she doesn´t get any ideas that she can make me break my rules by means of pussy control. Also if she turns down my dick I make her wait for it next time she wants it even if its hard for me.
There you have it.
cheers all

Author:  Meraki [ Fri May 31, 2013 1:17 am ]
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Nice Rider. Way to start taking control. I'm sure you faced push-back on those decisions (like deciding to split up your finances), but going through with them anyway was a big step.
Rider wrote:
Once I realized that I have done my part correctly I knew I don´t want to live with someone who doesn´t want to do their share
That to me is one of the big keys. Realizing that there is a line at which you are willing to walk away, no matter how negative it seems the consequences are. See my signature...

Author:  GoldenBoy [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:11 pm ]
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Hi Rider, glad to be of any help :lol:

I'll reiterate that http://www.youtube.com/user/CultOfBlack ... eos?view=0 is currently selecting all relevant black philip topics on his O&A appearances.

Other than that, Marquee Value was on your side, you helped it immensely, BRAVO

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